Conditions:Peter's Creek-20221212083842
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3 Dec 2022 (3 yrs, 3 mos ago) |
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| Reported by: | Feroz (36 reports), Boof (34 reports), JennJ (1 reports) | |
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| Location: | Peter's Creek | |
| Quality: | Ok |
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| Waterflow: | Deep pools |
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| Wetsuit: | Thin wetsuit |
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| Difficulty: | Normal |
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Team: 3 people with experience level Intermediate to Advanced
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Comments: Ran it right after the first significant rain of the season. We expected good flow, but Skyline Blvd had way more water flowing than the creek itself. My guess is that the ground was so dry that it absorbed most of the first rainfall.
All condition reports
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| Good | Moderate Low | None | Normal | | 3 people Beginner to Intermediate | Nicksmish (1 reports) | |
Comment: It's a fun little canyon that drops quickly in elevation from the first rappel. Quite a bit of down climbing and scrambling overall. We had great luck retrieving our rope with our DIY friction saver (a loop of webbing with a carabiner on one side and quick link on the other), as there are clear and accessible natural features to wrap around on all of the rappels. Here are some notes that may help if you are descending for you first time.
First, this trip was in early March, about 10 days after some heavy downpour in the month of February. The flow was moderate and relatively normal for winter time. Water temp was estimated to be 65F and air temp was estimated to peak around 66F, but it certainly felt warmer than that with full sun. When we arrive at the parking lot, the wind was whipping and cold, but down in the canyon it was calm and warmed up considerably by noon. We brought wetsuits, but left them at the top of R1, as they didn’t seem justified in the conditions. In high flow or a cooler day, I'd recommend a wetsuit. Second, there are three rappels described for this canyon, but we ended up rappelling a couple other sections that did not seem reasonable to down climb within the watercourse. I will refer to these as R2.5 and R3.5. We hiked down to R1 with our two young families. We spent probably 3-4 hours at R1, setting up different rappels, chasing kids around, and eating lunch. Found about 4 rappel options down R1, two RDC (one wet, one dry), one MDC (dry), and one LDC (wet). All of them were ~30 ft, with varying degrees of difficulty. Easy scramble back up to the top for multiple attempts. Our favorite option was LDC, where we used a large wedge-shaped rock sitting in the water as an anchor. Once the kids had their fun, 2 adults and a 13 year old descended the rest of the canyon, while the rest headed back to the cars. After R1, we scrambled down the watercourse a bit to get to R2. R2 is featured in the photo banner of this page and in the three flow images. It's a bit of an awkward start to slide around the tree, but very fun. Also about 30 feet tall. We got a little bit of a shower from the falls, but avoided getting soaked. Just down from R2 is a section that might be down-climbable when dry, but it wasn't obvious to us where to down climb as the watercourse was slick and outside of the watercourse was very steep. We ended up rappelling off a tree outside of the watercourse RDC that was on the other side of a rock feature (R2.5?). This was the least satisfying rappel of the canyon--it was down a dry and crumby slope that others had obviously rappelled down before. Would've loved to stay in the watercourse, but the only obvious feature to anchor from was a small natural arch in the canyon wall that looked a bit crumbly. A little more scrambling brought us to R3. The R3 RDC option starts with a 10 ft drop directly into a small pool. It was unavoidable and about chest deep. In high flow, it would be a swim. Despite getting soaked in this pool, we all agreed that opting for no wetsuits was the best idea. We warmed up quickly after emerging on the other side of the pool. This would be a neat place to practice setting up a short guided rappel as there is a robust tree on the downstream side of the pool, where the pool is much more shallow. Notably, the R3 LDC option does not have a pool. We checked this option out from the top, but opted for the RDC option, because the edge transition and rope pull appeared to be cleaner. *Important note about R3 RDC: we double-roped a 60 m rope from the tree above the pool, then continued down the waterway without pulling the rope and moving it to a new anchor. Once close to the bottom, we learned that the rope was too short. I estimate that from the top of the ledge above the pool to the bottom of R3, it would be about 110 - 120 ft. We only had 100 ft. Fortunately, there was a nice perch near a tree that allowed us to pull the rope and finish R3 from a new anchor. And frankly, this section may likely be down climbed. Next time, I will pull the rope after dropping into the pool, and then set up a new anchor on the tree on the downstream side of the pool. If anchored off the tree after the pool, I estimate the rappel would be ~70 ft. No idea what the R3 LDC length/strategy would be as it drops the entire distance without a pool transition. However, it also appeared to have plenty of options to stop and reset an anchor as needed. At this point, maybe we were supposed to find the trail and head back, but the most obvious path was to continue downstream. This required a short scramble and then another rappel (R3.5?). R3 did not appear to be down-climbable, as every pathway down was wet, slick, and sloped with a couple vertical drops of about 8 - 10 ft. R3.5 was a total of ~40 ft. After R3.5 we found a trail out RDC. Quick note about this trail. If you follow it as close to the watercourse as possible, you will have to scramble up a 100 ft granite slab covered in forest detritus. Felt like ascending Half Dome cables section without the cables and with leaves and plants sliding out from under your feet. Pretty sketchy. Eventually we made it to the top, where we intersected with the trail. Clearly we should have followed the trail out away from the watercourse RDC to circumvent this very uncomfortable scramble. Once on the trail, it was relatively easy to navigate. It covers a lot of elevation in a short amount of time. While car-to-car time was 8 hours total, it certainly could be done in about 3 - 4 total if moving at a moderate pace without playing too long at R1, like we did. | |||||||
| Good | Very Low | None | Normal | | 1 people Intermediate to Advanced | DU5TY317 (12 reports) | |
Comment: Conditions were mild with temps in the mid 60s to low 70s. Quite a bit of brush and overturned trees and branches and weeds all over the place. I believe that I did 7 raps, though there were possibilities for more (and less) if you turn one of them from a 60 ft. to a 90 ft rap. If I had noticed that the downclimb after the 60 footer was very slippy with the super low running water, I would've tried to extend the rap to the extended area since I had enough rope, but I ended up setting up an additional rap since I had already pulled my rope.
I also did a CEM off a tree above one of the waterfalls (if there was water) on my 3rd rap, which ended up getting stuck. I ended up going back up around to do the rappel again and just did a double strand rappel. I've only done CEM's on quick links or horizontal logs, so I ended up having the pull strand being overlapped by the rappel strand and the tree's bark being a bit more grippy didn't help. I didn't want to damage the tree, so it was easier to just go back up around. I could've just ascended back up but it seemed a bit easier to just go back up and around, but going around is longer than you think depending on where you're at, so it's likely going to be a lot easier to just ascend back up. Also, good idea to keep track of the gps since I ended up going about 40 feet lower in elevation accidentally since the "trail" going back up isn't exactly very obvious unless you know you're supposed to be going back up. Quite a few places to think about where to set up riggings especially compared to having very few choices in other canyons, so I spent a lot of time just trying to figure out the best way or places to anchor off of. Would be a lot better with at least 2 people to meat anchor and/or extend an anchor from 60 to 90 feet as well as test the pull on the CEM/fiddle stick anchors.
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| Good | Very Low | None | Normal | | 5 people Beginner to Advanced | Sanazestan (13 reports) | |
| Good | Very Low | None | Easy | | 4 people Advanced to Brand new | DesertMonkey (3 reports) | |
Comment: Took 3 brand new canyoneers down for their first trip. Super chill canyon, great for beginners. Good day out just lots of poison oak. Exit trail was easy to follow.
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| Good | Low | Rain jacket | Normal | | 9 people Brand new to Advanced | BWylie (24 reports),Ameister (45 reports),Jennj (11 reports) | |
Comment: Took a large group of beginners for their first canyon today. With air temps in the 60s and low flow, the group was split between rain jackets and wetsuits. We had a surprising number of issues with stuck ropes and R1 and R4. Previously have exited after the short R4, and we should have done it again this time.
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| Great | Moderate | Thin wetsuit | Normal | | 3 people Brand new to Beginner | Counterpoke (2 reports) | |
Comment: It was my first time canyoneering and thought this place was amazing for me to test out all my gear and to practice ghosting techniques. The highlight was the waterfall marked R2 on this wiki. Thanks to the previous trip report, I brought my 65m rope, so I didn't have any issues with rope length; though it really was overkill for this place.
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| Amazing | Moderate High | Full wetsuit | | | 4 people Brand new to Advanced | Sanazestan (13 reports) | |
Comment: The creek was running high after recent rains. It was raining today as well. The first couple of raps were lots of fun. The water was cold but air temperature was much more comfortable compared to last year at this time. We had three beginners so we took our time, enjoyed the canyon, and gave everyone enough time to pace themselves. On the last rap, my 90 foot rope (I measure my ropes regularly) which we were using as the pull side was short probably about 10-15 feet, which surprised us given that the beta says the highest rap is 60! We had extra rope to tie to the pull side and were fine but weren't expecting anything higher than 60. Maybe we missed an anchor point lower than the tree we used.
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| Great | Moderate | Full wetsuit | Normal | | 4 people Intermediate to Advanced | Rbowru (57 reports),Ameister (45 reports),Hillbelfi (33 reports),Jennj (11 reports) | |
Comment: Peter's Creek still running high after more storms this week! Lots of fun water on the first couple raps. Pretty cold to be in the water with air temps ~45F. We skipped the last rappel and downclimb due to an injury in the group.
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| Amazing | High | Full wetsuit | Special challenges | | 7 people Intermediate to Advanced | Feroz (36 reports),Boof (34 reports) | |
Comment: Really fun trip right after some heavy rains. We took our time to have fun and rigged both sides of R1. Coreshot a rope on R1 (RDC option) probably from not being super careful below the pinch point. We also lost a rope bag to the flow below R3.
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| Good | Moderate | Thin wetsuit | Normal | | 8 people Brand new to Expert | Sqshemet (85 reports),Epeairs (74 reports) | |
Comment: The day after some levee-breaching downpours, the creek was running high enough to make some of the rappels more challenging.
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| Good | Moderate Low | Thin wetsuit | Easy | | 3 people | Sqshemet (85 reports),Epeairs (74 reports),Smacame (8 reports) | |
Comment: It'd been a week of dry weather since a month of solid rain. The creek was still running enough to be fun, though not pushy enough to present substantial challenges.
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| Amazing | Moderate High | Full wetsuit | Normal | | 2 people | Sri (31 reports),Kirbside (98 reports) | |
Comment: Peter's creek running in Class C mode after heavy rains Saturday. The second rap is especially poundy. As mentioned in beta, there is no fixed anchor material in the canyon, but plenty of natural anchor options.
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| Ok | Deep pools | Thin wetsuit | Normal | | 3 people Intermediate to Advanced | Feroz (36 reports),Boof (34 reports),JennJ (1 reports) | |
Comment: Ran it right after the first significant rain of the season. We expected good flow, but Skyline Blvd had way more water flowing than the creek itself. My guess is that the ground was so dry that it absorbed most of the first rainfall.
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| Ok | Very Low | None | Normal | | 2 people Intermediate to Advanced | Feroz (36 reports),Boof (34 reports) | |
Comment: Exploration and documentation trip. Flow was pretty low, noticeably lower than a week ago when we first visited this creek. We ended up doing 6 rappels in total, but some of those could have been downclimbs or handlines.
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