Conditions:Pine Creek Canyon-20250530173831

Latest:	25 May 2025 (1 month ago)

Reported by:	Johnbcaves (161 reports)
Quality:	Amazing
Waterflow:	Deep pools
Wetsuit:	Thin wetsuit
Water temperature:
Difficulty:	Normal
Time:	4 hours

Team: 12 people with experience level Intermediate to Expert

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Comments: After a luxurious gentleman's start we ran efficiently and caught up to two groups of two, passing both near the end of the canyon. Full cold pools, but we moved quickly and didn't get cold (says me in a farmer john only).

A coreshot opened up on rope on the final rap, causing one rappeller to slide 6 feet before the sheath bunched up. A surprise we didn't need, but everyone stayed calm and we removed that segment from the rope and carried on.

We aimed high and left for an "faster" trail out, which we regretted. After rocking the descent (<2h from cars to off ropes), we suffered on the exit hike. I will take the creek next time.

All condition reports

Date	Quality	Waterflow	Wetsuit	Difficulty	Time	Team	Reported by
20 Jun 2025	Amazing		Thin wetsuit		3 hours	3 people Beginner to Advanced	RFontaine (282 reports)
Comment: Beautiful evening run! We started at 5pm and took my Dad for his 2nd ever canyon! He loved it! The lighting was super cool this time of day! 4/3 wetsuits super comfy, only 1 swim. We took the climber trail express out up to the 3rd switch back pull off parking, (2nd one down), very easy and saves time. Heads out of drainage shortly after last rap on left and stays along the bottom of the wall on left side of drainage.
8 Jun 2025	Good	Deep pools	Full wetsuit	Normal	2 hours	2 people	Nclegg (417 reports)
Comment: Full 4/3 was comfortable. Currently not much swimming and lots of walking through sand. Encountered a couple other large parties who kindly let us pass. 2.5h car-to-car moving at a moderate pace.
31 May 2025	Great	Deep pools	Thin wetsuit	Normal	3 hours	4 people Beginner to Advanced	Mchlprk11100 (15 reports)
Comment: Fun times with hot temperatures at the trailhead, followed by dark, cold pools once inside the technical canyon. Wore 4:3+ with waterproof neoprene socks and gloves, and was warm. Others with a 4:3 without neoprene socks and gloves were a bit cold. The beginning of the technical canyon still had pools, requiring brief periods of swimming. The end of the technical canyon, not including the last rappel, was dry. We were able to stand above the water as soon as we rappelled to the bottom of the Great Cathedral. Overall, a great day. In my experience, the best condition is immediately after a flash flood, when the canyon is completely full.
25 May 2025	Amazing		Thin wetsuit		3 hours	3 people	RFontaine (282 reports)
Comment: Absolutely top notch canyon with maximum bang for your buck! Very full conditions, lots of water exposure and dimly lit late in the day made for chilly conditions.we started at 5pm which made for some cool lighting! I was okay in my 4/3 but my 5/4 would have been more comfortable. Lots of deep wades and some swims. Alot more sand filling things in than in years past. On exit we found the sandy social trail high on the left. Might be quicker but in hindsight it is a bit more enjoyable to just follow the creek.
25 May 2025	Amazing	Deep pools	Full wetsuit	Normal	7 hours	5 people Beginner to Intermediate	Calvarez (12 reports),Bwylie (2 reports)
Comment: Great day in Pine Creek, we did a leisurely run and took our time in the canyon and on the exit. We saw several other groups but didn't bunch up with any of them in the canyon. Got to admire birds, a snake, and various plants along the way. The first obvious trail out of the streambed and towards the cars starts at just the right elevation, so there's almost no uphill if you exit there.
25 May 2025	Amazing	Deep pools	Thin wetsuit	Normal	4 hours	12 people Intermediate to Expert	Johnbcaves (161 reports)
Comment: After a luxurious gentleman's start we ran efficiently and caught up to two groups of two, passing both near the end of the canyon. Full cold pools, but we moved quickly and didn't get cold (says me in a farmer john only). A coreshot opened up on rope on the final rap, causing one rappeller to slide 6 feet before the sheath bunched up. A surprise we didn't need, but everyone stayed calm and we removed that segment from the rope and carried on. We aimed high and left for an "faster" trail out, which we regretted. After rocking the descent (<2h from cars to off ropes), we suffered on the exit hike. I will take the creek next time.
7 May 2025	Amazing	Deep pools	Full wetsuit	Normal	3 hours	4 people Beginner to Advanced	Kirbside (98 reports)
Comment: Amazing day in Pine Creek. Started late in the day (3 pm) and moved pretty smoothly outside of having to upclimb one of the rappels as someone left a backpack Water level is still pretty low despite recent rains. Wetsuits still very much needed and the water is very cold
24 Apr 2025	Great	Very Low	Thin wetsuit	Normal	3 hours	4 people Intermediate to Expert	Natureboytimflair (68 reports)
21 Apr 2025	Good	Deep pools	Thin wetsuit	Normal		6 people Brand new to Expert	Bricepollock (39 reports)
Comment: Submerged like last time first getting into the canyon. Some swims. Some people were cold but my 3/4 wetsuit was great for me.
26 Mar 2025	Amazing	Deep pools	Full wetsuit	Normal	2 hours	3 people Intermediate to Advanced	AdamOtter (56 reports)
Comment: Fun day down pine Creek. Water is cold, canyon is full. anchors are all in good shape. Some tat for smaller obstacles might need to be replaced soon. We jumped two obstacles which was really awesome. We saw two other parties, two Aussies and a group of 4 from Zion outfitters. The walk out was long but not bad.
3 Oct 2024	Great	Deep pools	Thin wetsuit	Normal	3 hours	6 people Beginner to Advanced	Mikeatran (84 reports),EricJ (4 reports)
Comment: Some of our group did it without wet-suits, they were shivering cold but claimed to be fine. Mike: If a 2mm wetsuit is available that’ll make the canyon enjoyable. Late start to canyon for shuttle setup and drive to Zion. Needed to factor about an hour due to tunnel traffic and parking situation at top. Nuisance rappel in beginning led to chest deep water; cathedral portion had a surprising amount of water at the bottom. Typical depth (no long swims) in narrow section, with standard 30’ swim at 3rd to last rappel. Took hike trail dcl to bypass field, which I believe might be a climbing route entrance and exit.
26 Sep 2024	Great	Low	Full wetsuit	Normal	6 hours	8 people Brand new to Expert	Rodtel314 (36 reports),Rbowru (54 reports)
Comment: Great day with 3 people being their first canyon! We enjoyed the canyon and taking our time. There were a few very short mandatory swims, most folks wore full wetsuits but I got away with a shorty and was happy. Any beta you try to follow is tricky because anything that could possibly be a tricky down climb is rigged with extra bolts/webbing, adding a lot of extra rappels. The hardest part of the day for us was finding parking at the visitor center to pick up the permit (definitely recommend going with more than one person so someone can run inside to get the permit while the other one can circle in the parking lot). We also had a tough time getting through the tunnel to set the car shuttle (expect traffic if your group is too large to set the shuttle on the way).
5 Sep 2024	Amazing	Deep pools	Full wetsuit	Normal	2 hours	6 people Intermediate to Advanced	Sqshemet (78 reports),Kirbside (98 reports),Epeairs (73 reports)
Comment: Awesome day in Pine Creek, as usual. We did an evening Keyhole + Pine Creek as a warm up and gear test for Heaps the next day. It was late enough that we didn't get the magical lighting but instead the dark and moody narrows. A few swims up to 20 feet (in the usual spots). Someone has left a fixed line with butterfly knots on the nuisance rappel before the big one. The next party should remove this line. It is not great for downclimbing, you can't rappel on it, and it is already showing a good amount of wear.
30 Jul 2024	Great	Dry	None	Normal	4 hours	2 people Beginner to Advanced	JTMiller (1 reports)
Comment: A morning run through Pine Creek. First time that I haven't seen anyone else in the canyon. Had it completely to ourselves. Canyon is completely dry until the grotto at the bottom of the last drop which is holding some water. Anchors all in good condition.
4 Jul 2024	Amazing		None		5 hours	6 people Intermediate to Advanced	RFontaine (282 reports)
Comment: Incredibly gorgeous canyon. We took our time and enjoyed it. Hardly any water. One waist deep pool felt nice without wetsuits. The long hallway that is usually a swim is completely dry.

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