Conditions:Mud Spring Canyon-20231115061228
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13 Nov 2023 (1 yr, 2 mos ago) |
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Reported by: | Jsb4g (1 reports) | |
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Quality: | Great |
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Waterflow: | Very Low |
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Wetsuit: | None |
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Difficulty: | Normal |
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Time: | 5 hours |
Team: 5 people with experience level Intermediate to Expert
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Comments: Holding a bit of water, but you can stay dry with some effort and by skipping one rappel by using a ledge on the DCL side. Note to reader: we stuck a rope in the canyon. I believe it was rap 3. It is a 100 foot yellow and purple Imlay Canyon Fire. I would like it back if you find it. But I am also curious how it is stuck. I used a toggle device on the rap and the toggle pulled fine but the rope only came down a few inches before sticking. A pick of how it is stuck would be great! You can contact me on FB Messenger- Jason Beaton of Utah https://www.facebook.com/jason.beaton.94/
All condition reports
Date | Quality | Waterflow | Wetsuit | Difficulty | Time | Team | Reported by |
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13 Nov 2023
| Great | Very Low | None | Normal | 5 hours | 5 people Intermediate to Expert | Jsb4g (1 reports) |
Comment: Holding a bit of water, but you can stay dry with some effort and by skipping one rappel by using a ledge on the DCL side. Note to reader: we stuck a rope in the canyon. I believe it was rap 3. It is a 100 foot yellow and purple Imlay Canyon Fire. I would like it back if you find it. But I am also curious how it is stuck. I used a toggle device on the rap and the toggle pulled fine but the rope only came down a few inches before sticking. A pick of how it is stuck would be great! You can contact me on FB Messenger- Jason Beaton of Utah https://www.facebook.com/jason.beaton.94/
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Amazing | Very Low | None | Normal | 7 hours | 7 people Beginner to Advanced | Mfeingol (51 reports) | |
Comment: Wonderful canyon, scenic and enjoyable. We had a fun and leisurely day using a newly discovered entry route with two rappels to enter the canyon above R1. Lower part of the canyon has the usual pools, but all water was avoidable with moderate avoidance techniques. Early exit from the watercourse to exit the canyon was easy to find and much improved from a couple of years ago.
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Great | Moderate Low | None | Easy | 6 hours | 5 people Beginner to Advanced | Lukemurray2016 (7 reports) | |
Comment: Mud Springs nighttime run! Post-Hurricane Hilary as well, the canyon is as full and flowing as well as I've ever seen it, particularly for this time of year. Several anchors were washed out, we rebuilt and replaced webbing on ones that needed it.
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Great | Deep pools | None | Special challenges | 7 hours | 6 people Brand new to Advanced | Ameister (43 reports),Xenonrocket (102 reports) | |
Comment: Lovely canyon - Red Rocks is super scenic compared to other Vegas canyons. We did only the first half (R1-R5) due to worries that we'd get too wet on the latter sequence of raps. All water in that section was avoidable with some good footwork.
R2 had a sketchy cairn anchor for a single rock, which we backed up from a piton. Immediately after R4, we found the anchor for another rap from a tree immediately afterwards and used it to descend. Using the bypass exit, we utilized an "R6" to avoid a high-consequence slab downclimb. The way that Google Maps routed us to the exit was suboptimal and required significant 4WD capabilities. Enter by the Late Night Trailhead for a significantly smoother drive (likely doable in a sturdy sedan). For the start, a 4WD is only required for the last ~.2 miles of the drive.
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Great | Deep pools | Thin wetsuit | Normal | 7 hours | 2 people Beginner | Lukemurray2016 (7 reports) | |
Comment: Mud Springs run. First four raps water is entirely avoidable, 5th (does not need to be rap'd, but webbing was in place and we added it for fun), 7th, 8th rappels were wet.
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Good | Deep pools | None | Special challenges | 12 hours | 8 people Brand new to Expert | Willie92708 (973 reports) | |
Comment: This quickly became an EPIC trip, because some members were struggling physically (medical conditions, training, skills), or struggling mentally (fear of rappelling from height) (IE BIG Special Challenges). We also were behind 2 other groups of 6 and 6, which really did not slow us down; even though we hiked the approach together, because we did the bonus 220 foot rappel down the big slab, which added a bunch of time while the other groups hiked down. Anyway, the trip was SLOW!
The pools were mostly full, but all of them were easy enough to avoid given some stemming skill, or climbing around them. I did not check the water temp, but likely cold given the low air temp that day. All the anchors are good. | |||||||
Good | Dry | None | Normal | 6 hours | 3 people Expert | Estunum (34 reports) | |
Good | Dry | None | Special challenges | 7 hours | 2 people | Willie92708 (973 reports) | |
Comment: We actually planned to go climb Jubilant Song, but I got my beta messed up and thought it was in Mud Springs Canyon instead of Windy Canyon (next major drainage to the South). Anyway, after spending a bunch of time trying to figure out where the climb was located, I realized I was in the wrong major drainage. So, we hiked up the gully to do the sneak version of Mud Spring Canyon descent, which is straight forward and quick. Once up there we explored the top of the gully that leads down to the giant chock stone. This would be a neat way down, but it really needs bolted anchors. We proceed down the the drops normally finished the technical canyon. Then on the way out we climbed a half pitch of a striking dihedral corner that was like 5.2 up to where it got hard. Overall a good day out, but not what we had planned.
The pool water level in Mud Springs very low, but still you have to climb up around 3 of the pools to avoid going into the water.
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Good | Very Low | None | Normal | 6 hours | 2 people Intermediate to Brand new | CrackCocainino (9 reports) | |
Comment: Make sure you soft start rap 2 or else the anchor rock will slide, possibly off the edge, resulting in death. Able to stay dry until rappels 6, 7. There is an intermediate rappel anchor attached to something in a pool after rap 3, but a 200’ rope will reach the bottom past this (barely) and is not needed. Kinda unnecessary bolts on final 2 raps.
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Amazing | Very Low | None | Special challenges | 6 hours | 6 people | Willie92708 (973 reports) | |
Comment: Since none of us took wetsuits, and only one person had a drysuit, we climbed around all the pools (special challenges). Some were totally successful at doing this, others not. The warm Sun and light breeze, even though the air was chilly, made for an awesome day.
At the first rappel in the lower section we all climbed around DCL as the pool below that fall looked unavoidable. At the rappel under the big chockstone (next rap), many climbed around it DCL, but a few rappelled down expecting to go into a pool, but it can be climbed around DCR. All the pools were all full of clear cold water with a enough flow to create a bit of spray on some rappels. Overall, amazingly beautiful canyon! | |||||||
Great | | | | | CanditionBot (2096 reports) | ||
Great | | | | | CanditionBot (2096 reports) | ||
Great | | | | | CanditionBot (2096 reports) | ||
Amazing | | | | | CanditionBot (2096 reports) | ||
Good | | Rain jacket | | | 14 people | CC (93 reports) | |
Comment: able to avoid most pools but some got knee deep, scenic R1-2 sequence,
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