Conditions:Pine Creek Canyon-Candition20130629 DentedVW

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29 Jun 2013 (11 yrs, 10 mos ago)

Reported by: CanditionBot (2103 reports)
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Trip report URL: http://www.candition.com/canyons/pine-creek

Comments: See the full condition report at Candition.com. Submitted by DentedVW.



All condition reports


Date Quality Waterflow Wetsuit Difficulty Time Team Reported by


Amazing

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4 people
Beginner to Advanced
Kirbside (96 reports)
Comment: Amazing day in Pine Creek. Started late in the day (3 pm) and moved pretty smoothly outside of having to upclimb one of the rappels as someone left a backpack

Water level is still pretty low despite recent rains. Wetsuits still very much needed and the water is very cold




Great

Very Low
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4 people
Intermediate to Expert
Natureboytimflair (67 reports)




Good

Deep pools
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6 people
Brand new to Expert
Bricepollock (39 reports)
Comment: Submerged like last time first getting into the canyon. Some swims. Some people were cold but my 3/4 wetsuit was great for me.




Amazing

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3 people
Intermediate to Advanced
AdamOtter (52 reports)
Comment: Fun day down pine Creek. Water is cold, canyon is full. anchors are all in good shape.

Some tat for smaller obstacles might need to be replaced soon. We jumped two obstacles which was really awesome. We saw two other parties, two Aussies and a group of 4 from Zion outfitters. The walk out was long but not bad.




Great

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6 people
Beginner to Advanced
Mikeatran (84 reports),EricJ (4 reports)
Comment: Some of our group did it without wet-suits, they were shivering cold but claimed to be fine.

Mike: If a 2mm wetsuit is available that’ll make the canyon enjoyable. Late start to canyon for shuttle setup and drive to Zion. Needed to factor about an hour due to tunnel traffic and parking situation at top. Nuisance rappel in beginning led to chest deep water; cathedral portion had a surprising amount of water at the bottom. Typical depth (no long swims) in narrow section, with standard 30’ swim at 3rd to last rappel. Took hike trail dcl to bypass field, which I believe might be a climbing route entrance and exit.




Great

Low
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8 people
Brand new to Expert
Rodtel314 (36 reports),Rbowru (54 reports)
Comment: Great day with 3 people being their first canyon! We enjoyed the canyon and taking our time. There were a few very short mandatory swims, most folks wore full wetsuits but I got away with a shorty and was happy. Any beta you try to follow is tricky because anything that could possibly be a tricky down climb is rigged with extra bolts/webbing, adding a lot of extra rappels.

The hardest part of the day for us was finding parking at the visitor center to pick up the permit (definitely recommend going with more than one person so someone can run inside to get the permit while the other one can circle in the parking lot). We also had a tough time getting through the tunnel to set the car shuttle (expect traffic if your group is too large to set the shuttle on the way).




Amazing

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6 people
Intermediate to Advanced
Sqshemet (75 reports),Kirbside (96 reports),Epeairs (70 reports)
Comment: Awesome day in Pine Creek, as usual. We did an evening Keyhole + Pine Creek as a warm up and gear test for Heaps the next day. It was late enough that we didn't get the magical lighting but instead the dark and moody narrows. A few swims up to 20 feet (in the usual spots).

Someone has left a fixed line with butterfly knots on the nuisance rappel before the big one. The next party should remove this line. It is not great for downclimbing, you can't rappel on it, and it is already showing a good amount of wear.




Great

Dry
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2 people
Beginner to Advanced
JTMiller (1 reports)
Comment: A morning run through Pine Creek. First time that I haven't seen anyone else in the canyon. Had it completely to ourselves. Canyon is completely dry until the grotto at the bottom of the last drop which is holding some water. Anchors all in good condition.




Amazing


None
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6 people
Intermediate to Advanced
RFontaine (270 reports)
Comment: Incredibly gorgeous canyon. We took our time and enjoyed it. Hardly any water. One waist deep pool felt nice without wetsuits. The long hallway that is usually a swim is completely dry.
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  • Great

    Very Low
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    7 people
    Brand new to Expert
    Ingalls (28 reports)
    Comment: Water was very low with calf deep water in a small corner of the cathedral. I would echo the previous report that some of the webbing is starting to reach EOL. 4 groups bottle-necked ahead of us at the last rap. The boulder hopping takes a bit of time but there were 3-4 places to get a swim in and cool off on the way back to the car.




    Amazing

    Deep pools
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    5 people
    Beginner to Intermediate
    PsychoWard (33 reports)
    Comment: Amazing canyon. Stunning and just beautiful. Anchors were all in good shape. Pools were deep and cold. Loved every minute of it.




    Amazing

    Very Low
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    2 people
    Beginner to Intermediate
    Grapefruit (33 reports)
    Comment: Very dry. Dry in the swimmer narrows section. Some webbing getting tired. Only swam a few times and it was refreshing at that. Wetsuits not recommended. Exit was hot but bearable. Have I mentioned I hate boulder hopping?




    Amazing

    Deep pools
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    3 people
    Intermediate to Expert
    Kdinger (9 reports)
    Comment: Hardest part was hitching the shuttle - took 1.5 hours.

    Very dry - two of us put wetsuits on halfway at the parking lot and then all the way for the one swim and took them off immediately after. We were very comfortable, but so was the person with no wetsuit. We'd all leave them behind if we did it again in these conditions.

    As one who gets nervous with unprotected exposure, I was worried about the approach to the final rappel given the description here on ropewiki, but it was not an issue at all - very easy climb to a huge ledge, and then the descent from there to the anchor is down a trough that feels very secure.

    Definitely stop at the great swimming hole just before the climb out to the road.




    Amazing

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    3 people
    Brand new to Intermediate
    BryceM777 (14 reports)
    Comment: Pine creek was surprisingly low water for an early June run. Almost the entire canyon has dried out and the cathedral barely had any water left. There was only 1 swimmer that I could remember for the entirety of the trip. As stated by many others, the scenery is amazing and if you haven’t done this canyon, this should be one to check off the list. Everyone had 3/2s but I along with all other members wore mine on about half way before switching to fully on after the cathedral. For the one that doesn’t get cold too easily, a wetsuit can be skipped for this time of year.
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  • Amazing

    Very Low
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    4 people
    Advanced to Beginner
    Johnbcaves (158 reports)
    Comment: Passed a group of 4 (thanks!). Canyon was dark and mysterious at times. Lots of frogs at the exit.


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